Thank you. Earlier in the year I asked you how I could decide if being asked to run for a state house office was ego Or not and after your conversation and discernment I decided to run. I believe my role in running is more to listen than preach and help make decisions that help us heal. We are in difficult times and we need to make difficult decisions. Let’s do it in peace.
Thank you Marianne. I am a French woman. Before being French I am a woman and I stand for women to get the right to choose and advocate for their own body. May we all do that from a place of love and peace in our hearts.
I agree that a new approach is needed. But perhaps it is time that women stand up and demand that the right to abortion and its discussion does not belong in politics. At all.
Women have the right to decide what happens to their own body. I have lived long enough to see this will not get resolved on a political level. So whats the new approach? Same old stuff. Get women's rights out of the political agenda.
This issue is being used by politicians to get votes. I don't believe a single politician has a sincere agenda.
I am too old to go to protest rallies but in this instance I will.
Thank you so much for this. I have been reading your wise words for many years now and am profoundly grateful that people like you exist . Thank you for all you do.
So you write Marianne: "The most powerful thing we can do is develop a plan to submit to reasonable legislators and governors who might still yet be swayed." Yes! But, again, even making counseling mandatory by law is the same problem at a different level: still trying to control another human being's decisions.
So, it seems we need to go somehow even deeper in our thinking, and this is what's lacking and needs to manifest. It's a very, very painful topic wherein it stems from two different socio-cultural systems: patriarchal and spiritual or religious perceptions that don't align--therein maybe an answer; plus, having yet more open discussions as you did in Sacramento! But fast-tracking this seems amoral. Indeed, we must strive for compassion and respect for each other during upcoming talks about women's reproduction but, hopefully, having outcomes without penalizing choices or criminalizing others for their actions. I am hoping for some Divine intervention at this juncture for this topic and others too! Wishing all peace at this time and always.
How do we create an alternative to the Supreme Court? What happens when we no longer feel that they can be trusted in their decisions? Our system is not working to protect its people from those who would undo us. We can modify our behavior in our discourse. but it still feels irreconcilable.
Marianne, I love your inspiring leadership on so many issues. But that said, to frame this current issue primarily as an assault on women is missing the most useful context. This is an assault on US citizens, our autonomy and our expectations as citizens. And when you say it couldn't happen at a worse time, that makes it obvious that it must be the best possible time for this conversation, as far as some are concerned. Please, this is about corrupt leaders, who have put off ratifying the ERA for half a century, and have left the touchstone of abortion to smolder in the background, unresolved, where it can be kicked back into a divisive and distracting issue whenever needed. And certainly our old faithful Dems will be happy for an issue to bring us out in November, given that they haven't many important promises delivered to boast about... All you say is valid, but let's approach this together, men and women and all other genders, and demand from our elected leaders that they find a fair compromise in their laws, that pleases the majority yet protects the minority. And even then, we could also be examining the corruption in our voting process, which allows corrupt politicians to maintain their divisive attitudes. But we're not likely to focus on the urgent voter's rights legislation, or any reconciliation packages, or even how to save our asses in the mid-terms, while also still managing to avoid the triple elephants of climate change, war and pandemic... we'll ignore all that if we're screaming at each other about abortion and waving coat-hangers and pussy-hats. Can we get down to the real business of focusing on the oligarchic corruption in present US politics and journalism? I'm sure you know all about those after running for President... Bravo for all you do, but let's not further division, when we'll all need to unite to unseat the greedy corrupt bastards of all genders and skin tones who are poised to keep ripping us off while the world burns... Cheers!
"My body, My choice" MUST include all aspects of our bodily privacy, including our freedom to choose our medical treatments. We must be free to choose not to be injected with EXPERIMENTAL (in the present case, clot- and- myocarditis promoting, and immune system compromising) shots. Any types of coercion promoting our being injected with experimental therapies, or our showing proof thereof, violate the Nuremberg Codes, the 1st and 4th and 5th Amendments of the US Constitution, many state constitutions, Title III of the 1964 US Civil Rights Act, Articles 32 and 147 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV, and the 1964 Helsinki Declaration, which is the World Medical Association's cornerstone document of ethical principles regarding experimentation done on humans.
The struggle that I have is finding an answer to how is abortion a spiritually loving solution? Where is the God love in abortion? I ask this with spiritual sincerity so please give me a spiritual answer, not from a social/political position.
The issue of abortion is building up what it always builds up when put on stage, it is increasing the sickness and darkness in the relationship between men and women. Right now men are being accused of wanting to control women's bodies, and women are being seen as killers and male bashers. For the abortion issue to obtain any light the heterosexual relationship needs to be looked at and healed from a Higher perspective. For a greater and healthy union.
Conversations that are respectful and open hearted can indeed be very healing. When there is no agreement or coming together or compromise possible, those conversation can go a long way to remove or lessen antagonism. That said, we are dealing with the actual removal of personal rights, the right of women to have as much sovereignty over their bodies as men. Civil conversations, even heart felt conversations will allow greater understanding and yet, women will still be forced against their will to have babies. As a Boomer, I know the protests, sit ins, and strikes energized people into social movements that influenced politics and helped to secure civil rights for non-whites, help bring an end to the Vietnam War, helped to pass Roe, helped to waken LGBTQ people to fight for their rights both here and abroad, helped to raise awareness and change laws to protect our environment from pollution. Please don’t discount the effect of mass mobilizations of people to protest and refuse cooperation with unjust laws. I get the risk to the fabric of our nation is great, but if we do not fight hard on this one, the fabric of our nation will transform into a true Christian patriarchal authoritarian regime.
"But in the meantime, this moment is calling for a pivot in our attitudes. We must, in the words of Abraham Lincoln, both “think anew and act anew.” A new situation now calls for new strategy. The only way to win this battle is to move it to new ground." Thank you so much for your loving and insightful wisdom!
This is just an emotive divisive( female vs male)issue done on purpose in the media for the intended emotional chaos effect.
Who are the ones that need the govt's (a corporate entity) court to tell them what justice is and what they can and cant do or what is right and wrong?
This is not about "choice or freedom" which the Govt does not and cannot hand out and it does not even want people to have freedom or choice.
My God is neither the Govt( set up as a corporation) nor is it the govt's court. This fact is truth even if the court usurps title giving itself Gods name " supreme".
Thank you. Earlier in the year I asked you how I could decide if being asked to run for a state house office was ego Or not and after your conversation and discernment I decided to run. I believe my role in running is more to listen than preach and help make decisions that help us heal. We are in difficult times and we need to make difficult decisions. Let’s do it in peace.
I really think we need to call people in favor or taking away a woman’s right to choose as
ANTI-CHOICE not pro-life. WE ARE ALL PRO-LiFE No one is more pro-life than the next person. Anti-choice or Pro-choice are the words.
Brilliant Marianne we must all begin to listen and find common ground. Thank you for expressing your wisdom.
Thank you Marianne. I am a French woman. Before being French I am a woman and I stand for women to get the right to choose and advocate for their own body. May we all do that from a place of love and peace in our hearts.
I agree that a new approach is needed. But perhaps it is time that women stand up and demand that the right to abortion and its discussion does not belong in politics. At all.
Women have the right to decide what happens to their own body. I have lived long enough to see this will not get resolved on a political level. So whats the new approach? Same old stuff. Get women's rights out of the political agenda.
This issue is being used by politicians to get votes. I don't believe a single politician has a sincere agenda.
I am too old to go to protest rallies but in this instance I will.
Thank you so much for this. I have been reading your wise words for many years now and am profoundly grateful that people like you exist . Thank you for all you do.
So you write Marianne: "The most powerful thing we can do is develop a plan to submit to reasonable legislators and governors who might still yet be swayed." Yes! But, again, even making counseling mandatory by law is the same problem at a different level: still trying to control another human being's decisions.
So, it seems we need to go somehow even deeper in our thinking, and this is what's lacking and needs to manifest. It's a very, very painful topic wherein it stems from two different socio-cultural systems: patriarchal and spiritual or religious perceptions that don't align--therein maybe an answer; plus, having yet more open discussions as you did in Sacramento! But fast-tracking this seems amoral. Indeed, we must strive for compassion and respect for each other during upcoming talks about women's reproduction but, hopefully, having outcomes without penalizing choices or criminalizing others for their actions. I am hoping for some Divine intervention at this juncture for this topic and others too! Wishing all peace at this time and always.
How do we create an alternative to the Supreme Court? What happens when we no longer feel that they can be trusted in their decisions? Our system is not working to protect its people from those who would undo us. We can modify our behavior in our discourse. but it still feels irreconcilable.
Marianne, I love your inspiring leadership on so many issues. But that said, to frame this current issue primarily as an assault on women is missing the most useful context. This is an assault on US citizens, our autonomy and our expectations as citizens. And when you say it couldn't happen at a worse time, that makes it obvious that it must be the best possible time for this conversation, as far as some are concerned. Please, this is about corrupt leaders, who have put off ratifying the ERA for half a century, and have left the touchstone of abortion to smolder in the background, unresolved, where it can be kicked back into a divisive and distracting issue whenever needed. And certainly our old faithful Dems will be happy for an issue to bring us out in November, given that they haven't many important promises delivered to boast about... All you say is valid, but let's approach this together, men and women and all other genders, and demand from our elected leaders that they find a fair compromise in their laws, that pleases the majority yet protects the minority. And even then, we could also be examining the corruption in our voting process, which allows corrupt politicians to maintain their divisive attitudes. But we're not likely to focus on the urgent voter's rights legislation, or any reconciliation packages, or even how to save our asses in the mid-terms, while also still managing to avoid the triple elephants of climate change, war and pandemic... we'll ignore all that if we're screaming at each other about abortion and waving coat-hangers and pussy-hats. Can we get down to the real business of focusing on the oligarchic corruption in present US politics and journalism? I'm sure you know all about those after running for President... Bravo for all you do, but let's not further division, when we'll all need to unite to unseat the greedy corrupt bastards of all genders and skin tones who are poised to keep ripping us off while the world burns... Cheers!
"My body, My choice" MUST include all aspects of our bodily privacy, including our freedom to choose our medical treatments. We must be free to choose not to be injected with EXPERIMENTAL (in the present case, clot- and- myocarditis promoting, and immune system compromising) shots. Any types of coercion promoting our being injected with experimental therapies, or our showing proof thereof, violate the Nuremberg Codes, the 1st and 4th and 5th Amendments of the US Constitution, many state constitutions, Title III of the 1964 US Civil Rights Act, Articles 32 and 147 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV, and the 1964 Helsinki Declaration, which is the World Medical Association's cornerstone document of ethical principles regarding experimentation done on humans.
The struggle that I have is finding an answer to how is abortion a spiritually loving solution? Where is the God love in abortion? I ask this with spiritual sincerity so please give me a spiritual answer, not from a social/political position.
The issue of abortion is building up what it always builds up when put on stage, it is increasing the sickness and darkness in the relationship between men and women. Right now men are being accused of wanting to control women's bodies, and women are being seen as killers and male bashers. For the abortion issue to obtain any light the heterosexual relationship needs to be looked at and healed from a Higher perspective. For a greater and healthy union.
Conversations that are respectful and open hearted can indeed be very healing. When there is no agreement or coming together or compromise possible, those conversation can go a long way to remove or lessen antagonism. That said, we are dealing with the actual removal of personal rights, the right of women to have as much sovereignty over their bodies as men. Civil conversations, even heart felt conversations will allow greater understanding and yet, women will still be forced against their will to have babies. As a Boomer, I know the protests, sit ins, and strikes energized people into social movements that influenced politics and helped to secure civil rights for non-whites, help bring an end to the Vietnam War, helped to pass Roe, helped to waken LGBTQ people to fight for their rights both here and abroad, helped to raise awareness and change laws to protect our environment from pollution. Please don’t discount the effect of mass mobilizations of people to protest and refuse cooperation with unjust laws. I get the risk to the fabric of our nation is great, but if we do not fight hard on this one, the fabric of our nation will transform into a true Christian patriarchal authoritarian regime.
Eve was framed.
"But in the meantime, this moment is calling for a pivot in our attitudes. We must, in the words of Abraham Lincoln, both “think anew and act anew.” A new situation now calls for new strategy. The only way to win this battle is to move it to new ground." Thank you so much for your loving and insightful wisdom!
This is just an emotive divisive( female vs male)issue done on purpose in the media for the intended emotional chaos effect.
Who are the ones that need the govt's (a corporate entity) court to tell them what justice is and what they can and cant do or what is right and wrong?
This is not about "choice or freedom" which the Govt does not and cannot hand out and it does not even want people to have freedom or choice.
My God is neither the Govt( set up as a corporation) nor is it the govt's court. This fact is truth even if the court usurps title giving itself Gods name " supreme".