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May 7, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

Thank you. Earlier in the year I asked you how I could decide if being asked to run for a state house office was ego Or not and after your conversation and discernment I decided to run. I believe my role in running is more to listen than preach and help make decisions that help us heal. We are in difficult times and we need to make difficult decisions. Let’s do it in peace.

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I really think we need to call people in favor or taking away a woman’s right to choose as

ANTI-CHOICE not pro-life. WE ARE ALL PRO-LiFE No one is more pro-life than the next person. Anti-choice or Pro-choice are the words.

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May 7, 2022·edited May 7, 2022Author

I agree. Edited the article

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May 8, 2022·edited May 8, 2022

Ok. There are 2 choices: one choice leads to a baby dying; the other choice leads to a baby living, having life. That is why I am Pro-Life and you ARE NOT Pro-Life. You choose death. You choose to have a baby die, Pro-Death. That is evil and wicked.

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A fetus is not a baby or a person until it is born and can live outside the body. You are not a woman and cannot carry a baby so it is had for you to understand about personal freedom. Before you say what is “evil and wicked” you should look into your own heart, you may be surprised. . Again Pro Choice or Anti Choice.

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If I was raped and impregnated by my father, or a husband, or a a college “ fiend”, or a son of a well known and influential man in a small, conservative community, I doubt I would want to carry on with that pregnancy. The shame of having an abortion would crash me. Socially, I would be likely ruined, some of my dreams and dignity would probably die at that moment. Emotionally, mentally and physically, I would be TRAUMATIZED and taking that some community mental health clinics have a waiting list of 100-150 people to see a psychotherapist, I would be living like a walking- dead woman/ girl throughout that pregnancy, disconnected from my body and the world and the baby. My life as I knew, would be dead. And the most horrifying likelihood is that people often repeat family patterns they were born to. It would devastate me. If I would have to watch my child repeating the cycle, it would be a torture. Many parts of me would by dead before I even had a choice to live my life. And you would want the state to mandate me to bring that baby to my scary, traumatized world?

The proposed anti- abortion law is anti dignity law for women. How many women have you talked to who have found themselves in the situation of considering abortion? Do you talk to the men in your family about day rape, what does a consent for sex really mean, have you talked to your daughters, sons, nephews and nieces about the importance of the word NO and that there should be zero tolerance for disregarding it? Can you handle such uncomfortable conversations with your loved ones? Can you strongly stand behind yourself and the men in your community and with a unified voice say “ I have never pushed a woman’s boundary ” when she verbally or non verbally communicated she was not ready for sex and “ I have always taken a full responsibility on my part for contraceptive measures before and during sex”, or maybe when you had sex for the first time you were truly convinced that it was with the women you wanted to spend the rest of your life with and if there was an unplanned pregnancy you were ready to take care of both of them… did you? Until you can be sure of that in your family and community, please let women make choices about their lives because we don’t get pregnant without having sex with men.

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even if there are problems? wake up sir. There are many reasons for abortions- shame on you.

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May 7, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

Brilliant Marianne we must all begin to listen and find common ground. Thank you for expressing your wisdom.

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May 7, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

Thank you Marianne. I am a French woman. Before being French I am a woman and I stand for women to get the right to choose and advocate for their own body. May we all do that from a place of love and peace in our hearts.

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I am a male and probably have no right to say this but i can't see a person at peace after a decision like this.

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May 11, 2022·edited May 11, 2022

I am a woman who has had abortions because I was fair game after being abused and traumatized as the youngest by my own father and the rest of the males and females in my family. I was a walking dead person after that. Your claiming to have no right to speak for women is where you should have stopped. Want to make it fair? Register all male DNA, and when a pregnancy happens, 50% of ALL responsibility goes to that biofather into caring for that woman and child/ren THROUGHOUT their entire lives, no exceptions. In cases of rape or incest, the male is immediately sterilized, the offender is put through a criminal rehabilitation program, and he pays for ALL damages incurred to the female and offspring involved. No double standards. No paying off lawyers. No repeat offenders and 'boys will be boys' patriarchal BS. Men should have all their freedoms removed as well. Oh, and no more boner pills, porn, domestic violence and sexual harrassment, either, not while women are dying of childbirth, pregnancy complications, and ovarian and breast cancers! Thanks!

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Dear Diana,

Your voice is important! Oh, so important! Shame thrives in silence. Sounds or disarming shame and patriarchal mentality can some day create a pretty beautiful symphony. Safe place for raising children 🌸

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I agree that a new approach is needed. But perhaps it is time that women stand up and demand that the right to abortion and its discussion does not belong in politics. At all.

Women have the right to decide what happens to their own body. I have lived long enough to see this will not get resolved on a political level. So whats the new approach? Same old stuff. Get women's rights out of the political agenda.

This issue is being used by politicians to get votes. I don't believe a single politician has a sincere agenda.

I am too old to go to protest rallies but in this instance I will.

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May 7, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

Thank you so much for this. I have been reading your wise words for many years now and am profoundly grateful that people like you exist . Thank you for all you do.

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May 7, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

So you write Marianne: "The most powerful thing we can do is develop a plan to submit to reasonable legislators and governors who might still yet be swayed." Yes! But, again, even making counseling mandatory by law is the same problem at a different level: still trying to control another human being's decisions.

So, it seems we need to go somehow even deeper in our thinking, and this is what's lacking and needs to manifest. It's a very, very painful topic wherein it stems from two different socio-cultural systems: patriarchal and spiritual or religious perceptions that don't align--therein maybe an answer; plus, having yet more open discussions as you did in Sacramento! But fast-tracking this seems amoral. Indeed, we must strive for compassion and respect for each other during upcoming talks about women's reproduction but, hopefully, having outcomes without penalizing choices or criminalizing others for their actions. I am hoping for some Divine intervention at this juncture for this topic and others too! Wishing all peace at this time and always.

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May 7, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

How do we create an alternative to the Supreme Court? What happens when we no longer feel that they can be trusted in their decisions? Our system is not working to protect its people from those who would undo us. We can modify our behavior in our discourse. but it still feels irreconcilable.

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May 8, 2022Liked by Marianne Williamson

Lisa, the renkowned Ervin Laszlo has recently published The Upshift wherein he explains how to fairly organize global governance from the top to the local level where folks are elected to carry out the higher visions, goals, and values--modifying the United Nations to become the United People, in order to reduce duality or polarization of nations And gaining consensus from regional players (i.e. the EU, the North American Union, the South American Union, the Middle East Union, etc) to be carried out at a local level, wherein elected folks support and activate the agreed upon global values: inclusion, fairness, etc. Also, he encourages forums for these topics to be carried out on the regional basis; i.e. the EU or North American Union (NAU) and so on. So, it is a fair top down bottom up approach! It can happen when populism and nationalism do not help evolve us Homo Sapiens!

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In reference to Lisa's comment, A Course in Miracles speaks of a court higher than the Supreme Court. It is God's Own Higher Court (ACIM Text 5.VI.10). I can testify that this Court works because I had to appeal to it. God can set us psychologically and spiritually free of anything. He Knows the truth.

What I liked most about this article was the way Marianne chose the miracle in Sacremento by choosing love over fear, to pray, to spend 2 minutes in silence and to give it to God. If politicians used Marianne's recipe it is of my opinion they would choose not to legislate on this matter. To transform the world we must look to A Course in Miracles.

"Two men were arguing bitterly. A child walked past and said 'see what a pretty flower I have.' The two men looked at him and when he had passed they both looked at each other and said, 'well I think you are right." - Christmas Humphreys

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Joan, thank you for this sharing. Very encouraging and entirely in the direction we as a species must align ourselves. There is an African word, Ubuntu, that means “I am because we are”, that is, how can I be happy while the rest are suffering.

A simple but profound question. We must take our brother to find happiness.

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The Court is not over turning R v W. It is just sending the decision back to the state level where it belongs. The nation should not have this on its collective soul. Let the people who want it bear responsibility and those that don't can find their peace.

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Each state is part of the collective soul; thus, no state, county or local governance should be oersonal denying freedoms, based on biased views regarding religion, health care, gender, etc. It signals a society nonevolved--sadly.

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Marianne, I love your inspiring leadership on so many issues. But that said, to frame this current issue primarily as an assault on women is missing the most useful context. This is an assault on US citizens, our autonomy and our expectations as citizens. And when you say it couldn't happen at a worse time, that makes it obvious that it must be the best possible time for this conversation, as far as some are concerned. Please, this is about corrupt leaders, who have put off ratifying the ERA for half a century, and have left the touchstone of abortion to smolder in the background, unresolved, where it can be kicked back into a divisive and distracting issue whenever needed. And certainly our old faithful Dems will be happy for an issue to bring us out in November, given that they haven't many important promises delivered to boast about... All you say is valid, but let's approach this together, men and women and all other genders, and demand from our elected leaders that they find a fair compromise in their laws, that pleases the majority yet protects the minority. And even then, we could also be examining the corruption in our voting process, which allows corrupt politicians to maintain their divisive attitudes. But we're not likely to focus on the urgent voter's rights legislation, or any reconciliation packages, or even how to save our asses in the mid-terms, while also still managing to avoid the triple elephants of climate change, war and pandemic... we'll ignore all that if we're screaming at each other about abortion and waving coat-hangers and pussy-hats. Can we get down to the real business of focusing on the oligarchic corruption in present US politics and journalism? I'm sure you know all about those after running for President... Bravo for all you do, but let's not further division, when we'll all need to unite to unseat the greedy corrupt bastards of all genders and skin tones who are poised to keep ripping us off while the world burns... Cheers!

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"My body, My choice" MUST include all aspects of our bodily privacy, including our freedom to choose our medical treatments. We must be free to choose not to be injected with EXPERIMENTAL (in the present case, clot- and- myocarditis promoting, and immune system compromising) shots. Any types of coercion promoting our being injected with experimental therapies, or our showing proof thereof, violate the Nuremberg Codes, the 1st and 4th and 5th Amendments of the US Constitution, many state constitutions, Title III of the 1964 US Civil Rights Act, Articles 32 and 147 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV, and the 1964 Helsinki Declaration, which is the World Medical Association's cornerstone document of ethical principles regarding experimentation done on humans.

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The struggle that I have is finding an answer to how is abortion a spiritually loving solution? Where is the God love in abortion? I ask this with spiritual sincerity so please give me a spiritual answer, not from a social/political position.

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when a couple engage in pleasure which might lead to a fertilized ovum, is it planned?, is it a mutual decision? or perhaps it's not pleasure, it an act carried out in violence, revenge, rage or by habit. The end result will fall on the woman who experiences a pregnancy. The partner might care or not, the woman failed to use birth control, or the measures failed, or she was attacked which happens in war, in peace, in a park, at home, or at a party. Who decides what the future holds for that woman? Congress? Who must make a painful decision that the woman must deal with for evermore. Congress, men in charge of the world and the church and the media and the corporations or the pharameutical companies? Giving women a choice is long due. Giving spiritual, emotional, psychological and the hope of financial support to the woman is essential. Who does that, Congress, the Church, strangers who will not adopt the thousand of children stuck in foster care? We cannot deny the social implications of unwanted pregnancies. They happen, will happen, and the answer is not forcing women to see desperate and unsafe solutions.

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I woke up this morning thinking about your question I read yesterday. From my understanding as a student of ACIM, it came to me that God offers us free will, meaning he offers us the choice. Meaning we have the choice and we also have to face the consequences of our choices. God doesn’t judge. May we be brave enough to keep this choice free for women as well ?

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While we have God given free will and consequences from our choices, those who choose life are judged by God accordingly.

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The issue of abortion is building up what it always builds up when put on stage, it is increasing the sickness and darkness in the relationship between men and women. Right now men are being accused of wanting to control women's bodies, and women are being seen as killers and male bashers. For the abortion issue to obtain any light the heterosexual relationship needs to be looked at and healed from a Higher perspective. For a greater and healthy union.

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Conversations that are respectful and open hearted can indeed be very healing. When there is no agreement or coming together or compromise possible, those conversation can go a long way to remove or lessen antagonism. That said, we are dealing with the actual removal of personal rights, the right of women to have as much sovereignty over their bodies as men. Civil conversations, even heart felt conversations will allow greater understanding and yet, women will still be forced against their will to have babies. As a Boomer, I know the protests, sit ins, and strikes energized people into social movements that influenced politics and helped to secure civil rights for non-whites, help bring an end to the Vietnam War, helped to pass Roe, helped to waken LGBTQ people to fight for their rights both here and abroad, helped to raise awareness and change laws to protect our environment from pollution. Please don’t discount the effect of mass mobilizations of people to protest and refuse cooperation with unjust laws. I get the risk to the fabric of our nation is great, but if we do not fight hard on this one, the fabric of our nation will transform into a true Christian patriarchal authoritarian regime.

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Eve was framed.

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Not only was she framed, the same serpent tossed her out of the Garden and told her and everyone else God did it. It is the ego (the serpent/devil) that tells us we are separated from God. Thank God the separation never occurred.

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The Mother of Jesus is the response to Eve. She is the prefect woman in every way. She dispels all criticism of eve. She is the answer to anyone that slanders Eve.

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Eve and the Garden are symbolism. My point is that the separation never occurred (ACIM).

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"But in the meantime, this moment is calling for a pivot in our attitudes. We must, in the words of Abraham Lincoln, both “think anew and act anew.” A new situation now calls for new strategy. The only way to win this battle is to move it to new ground." Thank you so much for your loving and insightful wisdom!

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May 8, 2022·edited May 9, 2022

This is just an emotive divisive( female vs male)issue done on purpose in the media for the intended emotional chaos effect.

Who are the ones that need the govt's (a corporate entity) court to tell them what justice is and what they can and cant do or what is right and wrong?

This is not about "choice or freedom" which the Govt does not and cannot hand out and it does not even want people to have freedom or choice.

My God is neither the Govt( set up as a corporation) nor is it the govt's court. This fact is truth even if the court usurps title giving itself Gods name " supreme".

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