Hello, Marianne. It's Kitsy. I haven't listened to the interview yet. Before I do, I want to say how impressed I am with the direction you are taking your exploration of former presidents and the slave-owners among them, in particular. You are highlighting the complex stories and the need to see humanity in all its messy truth.
No mud, no lotus.
No blood, no birth.
Although I am a big proponent of inclusion, patience, and allowing all of us to be where we are on our paths, I don't always walk my talk. In 2019 and 2020, I attended a state university with a slavery heritage in South Carolina. I assumed that when opportunities arose for them to be moving forward, acknowledge the wrongs of the past, and change the 'heritage message' they support, that they would. They did not. I left in frustrated disbelief and disgust. (They still haven't changed. Ha ha)
I was naive, impulsive, and outspoken, I did not lead with my heart; I scolded. Having grown up in the segregated Lowcountry of South Carolina during the Jim Crow years and through busing, desegregation, riots, curfews, and all of that, I am impatient and intolerant. It's been too damned long!
But that's not what I preach! I preach love, with a steady nudge toward the light.
I once told you, Marianne, at a campaign function in Anderson, SC, that you will reach people better when coming from your heart to reach the hearts of others. I still believe that. In this introduction, where you take a wise, loving, and healing view toward former presidents and how they struggled with the complexity of slavery and love, it shows you are doing that: you are reaching people not by scolding but by speaking from your heart to their hearts.
Now, I must catch up to that level of integrity and love...and I will.
Annette Gordon-Reed--what a lovely and engaging woman. You are right, we are so lucky to have her historic work! I am so glad you interviewed her. Peace, and thanks for sharing her with us.
Thank you for this spectacular, uplifting, down to earth discussion.
The first bill Jefferson introduced to the Virginia legislature as a new member was to abolish slavery. It was overwhelmingly defeated and showed him how deeply entrenched was the institution of slavery. Jefferson's letter to Maria Cosway, with its dialogue between the head and the heart, shows a man who must have thought deeply about his relationship with Sally Hemings. My estimate is that he considered her his second wife. I think ultimately the bonds of ethnic supremacism (of all types) will lose their hold because ultimately they are relatively shallow.
You will probably not get this email. I think your guest, is a knowledgeable woman, to say the least. She is trying to make sense of it all. I believe that the CRT and all the Movements do not make a good case. They are not approaching this in the right way. What ever happened to, Black is Beautiful”. No, you don’t need to make commercials about it and push the idea. Everyone can see that black is beautiful. Why can’t they see it about themselves? No excuses, 100% responsibility to how you feel about yourself. Who are you? What are you here for? These are the questions. They are not what color you are. Do you self-reflect everyday and thank god you are not a slave. Do you revel in the dignity of that. Where you have come from. What do the souls of the past cry out to you? Do you have dignity in who you are. I have dignity for you! Why do you not have that for yourself. Where is the honor. Martin Luther king died for you and yet you still want to talk about slavery. Get on to the business at hand. Pray to god and thank him everyday, that you are alive and you have the same,air,water and beauty as everyone else. The Movements are not subtle in the least. Teach history as you believe it to be true. But, do not taint it, so you look like a victim, That is below the black/ African American beauty. Ruminating on the slavery does not help your brothers. Please, we are not the perpetrators! We have learned from history and are suppose to be advanced soles. Some people have sold their soles.
This is not going to turn out pretty if you concentrate on the negative. If you could only see yourselves as I see you and love you! African American have so much talent. Don’t sell your soles. God is waiting for you to answer to his calling. So, is the universe!
“I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education.”
Hi Marianne – mostly folks in environmental-progressive movement pay dues and sign petitions. Occasionally they protest. Many intelligent people simply ‘talk about’ things, with no commitment to make a difference. Our major thought leaders positioned themselves as ‘fonts of knowledge’ (which they are) without impowering people become leaders in their own right.
Picking up on Jefferson, in my view we would do well to catalyze a social change movement based on helping people think better in the context of our existential emergency, and also giving people tools to resolve their own emotional triggers. I call folks who do this citizen-educators and evolutionary catalysts. Catalysing mass commitment to transformational change goes into detail (Https://App.Box.Com/S/3lcz1tpgb3tqtv67zwxavw7jromrh2qu).
Inspiring Transition is our support platform. We have a small international network.
My ideas are innovative, drawing on Feldenkrais, DesignShops, Internal Family Systems therapy and more.
I would love to have a Zoom conversation to explore the possibility of collaboration. We need to raise people’s level of thinking, and provide tools to improve emotional functioning.
Hello, Marianne. It's Kitsy. I haven't listened to the interview yet. Before I do, I want to say how impressed I am with the direction you are taking your exploration of former presidents and the slave-owners among them, in particular. You are highlighting the complex stories and the need to see humanity in all its messy truth.
No mud, no lotus.
No blood, no birth.
Although I am a big proponent of inclusion, patience, and allowing all of us to be where we are on our paths, I don't always walk my talk. In 2019 and 2020, I attended a state university with a slavery heritage in South Carolina. I assumed that when opportunities arose for them to be moving forward, acknowledge the wrongs of the past, and change the 'heritage message' they support, that they would. They did not. I left in frustrated disbelief and disgust. (They still haven't changed. Ha ha)
I was naive, impulsive, and outspoken, I did not lead with my heart; I scolded. Having grown up in the segregated Lowcountry of South Carolina during the Jim Crow years and through busing, desegregation, riots, curfews, and all of that, I am impatient and intolerant. It's been too damned long!
But that's not what I preach! I preach love, with a steady nudge toward the light.
I once told you, Marianne, at a campaign function in Anderson, SC, that you will reach people better when coming from your heart to reach the hearts of others. I still believe that. In this introduction, where you take a wise, loving, and healing view toward former presidents and how they struggled with the complexity of slavery and love, it shows you are doing that: you are reaching people not by scolding but by speaking from your heart to their hearts.
Now, I must catch up to that level of integrity and love...and I will.
Annette Gordon-Reed--what a lovely and engaging woman. You are right, we are so lucky to have her historic work! I am so glad you interviewed her. Peace, and thanks for sharing her with us.
Great interview, Truth and Compassion for sure. Thank you!
Thank you for this spectacular, uplifting, down to earth discussion.
The first bill Jefferson introduced to the Virginia legislature as a new member was to abolish slavery. It was overwhelmingly defeated and showed him how deeply entrenched was the institution of slavery. Jefferson's letter to Maria Cosway, with its dialogue between the head and the heart, shows a man who must have thought deeply about his relationship with Sally Hemings. My estimate is that he considered her his second wife. I think ultimately the bonds of ethnic supremacism (of all types) will lose their hold because ultimately they are relatively shallow.
Very good. Shared it with several friends.
You will probably not get this email. I think your guest, is a knowledgeable woman, to say the least. She is trying to make sense of it all. I believe that the CRT and all the Movements do not make a good case. They are not approaching this in the right way. What ever happened to, Black is Beautiful”. No, you don’t need to make commercials about it and push the idea. Everyone can see that black is beautiful. Why can’t they see it about themselves? No excuses, 100% responsibility to how you feel about yourself. Who are you? What are you here for? These are the questions. They are not what color you are. Do you self-reflect everyday and thank god you are not a slave. Do you revel in the dignity of that. Where you have come from. What do the souls of the past cry out to you? Do you have dignity in who you are. I have dignity for you! Why do you not have that for yourself. Where is the honor. Martin Luther king died for you and yet you still want to talk about slavery. Get on to the business at hand. Pray to god and thank him everyday, that you are alive and you have the same,air,water and beauty as everyone else. The Movements are not subtle in the least. Teach history as you believe it to be true. But, do not taint it, so you look like a victim, That is below the black/ African American beauty. Ruminating on the slavery does not help your brothers. Please, we are not the perpetrators! We have learned from history and are suppose to be advanced soles. Some people have sold their soles.
This is not going to turn out pretty if you concentrate on the negative. If you could only see yourselves as I see you and love you! African American have so much talent. Don’t sell your soles. God is waiting for you to answer to his calling. So, is the universe!
“I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education.”
Hi Marianne – mostly folks in environmental-progressive movement pay dues and sign petitions. Occasionally they protest. Many intelligent people simply ‘talk about’ things, with no commitment to make a difference. Our major thought leaders positioned themselves as ‘fonts of knowledge’ (which they are) without impowering people become leaders in their own right.
Picking up on Jefferson, in my view we would do well to catalyze a social change movement based on helping people think better in the context of our existential emergency, and also giving people tools to resolve their own emotional triggers. I call folks who do this citizen-educators and evolutionary catalysts. Catalysing mass commitment to transformational change goes into detail (Https://App.Box.Com/S/3lcz1tpgb3tqtv67zwxavw7jromrh2qu).
Inspiring Transition is our support platform. We have a small international network.
My ideas are innovative, drawing on Feldenkrais, DesignShops, Internal Family Systems therapy and more.
I would love to have a Zoom conversation to explore the possibility of collaboration. We need to raise people’s level of thinking, and provide tools to improve emotional functioning.
Andrew Gaines
Inspiring Transition
andrew.gaines@InspiringTransition.net
www.InspiringTransition.net
Greta Thunberg will have reason to hope when she sees that mainstream society is committed to turning things around.