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I can certainly relate to this interview. Thanks Marianne. I wonder if you can recall the album cover to Supertramp's 'Crime of the Century?' There is a prison window floating on its own through the universe. There are two hands wrapped around two of the bars. I often see this image in my head. I see it as God calling out to us to free him. It's as if He wants to be known, wants to join us but is imprisoned by our inability to see. ACIM often mentions the veil that blinds us to the Real World. Fortunately it also teaches us about the Bridge (the Holy Spirit) we can cross to find ourselves in the Real World. "Sooner or later must everyone bridge the gap he imagines exists between his selves (the ego and the Real Self)." ACIM Text 16.V.8. You discussed the problem of evil with the author Diana Bass. ACIM does say that the ego is the devil. To me, what we are witnessing in the world is the ego's assault on God (love). The answer to this must be to heal the separation between us and God by understanding that it never occurred (ACIM Lessons 79,80). This is the way to transcend the ego mind. To me the only direction the world can go, is in the direction of 'A Course in Miracles.' This book explains the complete meaning to life. In it is every question answered, in it lies the Truth of God.

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She is not the only one to have had this experience. In about 1995 I attended a service with my mother, sister, and step father and I heard a voice say 'Get me out of here.' I too did not know what to do and ran out of the cathedral and up until today I always assumed it was just myself telling myself I had to leave and I haven't been to a service since. I'd never considered that it would be Jesus asking ME to save HIM. Thanks for sharing.

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Thank you and Diana for your ongoing efforts to bring love into our world. For almost two decades after my mother's death when I was fourteen I was estranged from God and the Christian Church. Through my studies of the works of Carl Jung I began to study the Gospels myself. In my experience it is not Jesus who needed freeing, it was me. Jesus is clear that whatever I do for the least of my brethren I do for him. In Matthew 25 he tells me to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, care for the sick and imprisoned, welcome the stranger and in a later passage to love my enemy. And if, as you say, "the kingdom is within" then I must begin my journey into love with accepting and responding to the starving, hopeless and angry parts within me. If I can find the courage to find and face these parts of myself and bear the pain, then I become free to go beyond being a lukewarm nice person. The awakening founded on true self-awareness and self-love opens me to accepting the love of the Divine which can bring me passion. outrageous courage, love and compassion. In my experience Jesus is free and our challenge is to free and strengthen the experience of love that he offers within ourselves. From this strength we can become love warriors devoted to transforming our government and religious institutions. Bud Harris

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Ty Marianne. Perfect.

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I am so grateful for this...and daunted with the ah-hah moment that the lack of feeling loved is what got me into alcoholism/addiction, and the requirement to develop a Power Greater Than Myself got me out of it. Now, how often, particularly in struggling families, with generations of unloving parenting for any number of reasons, AND the use of phones/gizmos to distract/pacify children, there are so many more at risk of that lack of bonding with love, hence vulnerable to whatever group they experience which will take them in....may we grow to be there for children. Thank you for helping me have a more clear understanding of what is needed.

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Apr 17, 2022·edited Apr 17, 2022

Marianne, I found your conversation intriguing. Your getting a message about "the beach" and Diana's about getting out of the cathedral make real sense since Jesus urged others, as we are told, to seek the kingdom of God by 'going within'. He didn't seem to support societal institutional structures but encouraged people to seek and trust the divine within themselves (very intuitive). Unfortuantely, his message has been smeared over the centuries but remains relevant--the deep need for meditation and reflection to stay connected with our higher self. (I look forward to hearing more from you Marianne about your studies of Jesus as well as the other great spiritual leaders that have become prominent in peoples' mindset over the centuries, like Buddha, Moses, Muhammad, and Lao Tzu--who wrote of our unity. All reflect the idea: "To God Alone the Glory.")

Incidentally, I was raised by a naturalistic dad and artistic mom--she urged me to read Ralph Waldo Emerson's essays, particularly, the one on Self-Reliance, wherein Emerson questions humans dependence upon the stories about someone who lived over 2,000 years ago. Emerson, of course, was a transcendentalist, and what he taught is more in line with my thinking as well as Ervin Laszlo's too. My early experiences, including mystical moments, have formed my vision of a world that's divine (existing by a Creative Conscious Energy). But as we humans age, well, we often lose the magic of it all! Ceasing reverance for life leads to the collapse of the external. Yet, I think collective awareness is starting to manifest more (you are part of that help) and we can still save Mother Earth even though we are observing setbacks, fits, and starts! (Plus, I don't think we are alone, but part of a multiuniverse, wherein other beings maybe more advanced than us--scientifically, this potential exists. And I think us Homo Sapiens can evolve!)

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Wonderful Interview … Jesus is the embodiment of God’s compassionate Love … we become Christ’s physical body … our hands, our feet, our words, etc … and I loved the stories of the Washington Cathedral, the Vatican and the picture of Christ with the children … Happy Easter!

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glad for the Good News of your messages, Marianne and Diana, three cheers on this feast of feasts. Resurrecting Love is what we do!

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Thank you

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🎯this aligns with a portion of my book “For the Love of DOG”. Thank you.

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Happy Easter Marianne!

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Looking up to Jesus came to me through going to public school and having Easter and Christmas as holidays. As a child I enjoyed hearing about the life of Jesus as the healer, helper, teacher, and didn't stop after reading the Gospels. I'm glad I didn't learn about Jesus through the church with all the doctrine and dogma. I got closer to the core and meaning of the Gospels.

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Thank you Diana and Marianne - I enjoyed your Podcast very much and hope to read your book, Diana. Happy Easter to you both.

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Loved the message. I was in the Batican and thought looking at the dustren chapel „ that’s it?! It seems so small!

A similar book is Letters from Jesus“ As a surviving Chatholic it has given me back the loving God I met as a child that got replaced with guilt shame punishment and you will NEVER be worthy. I’ve healed I Am / WE ALL ARE & remain worthy.

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I love this interview. When she talks about her felt experience of Jesus when looking at the young girl with her head on his shoulder, I could only think of the other children, of different cultures, sitting there watching. Was it a white girl with her head on his shoulder? Maybe it wasn’t. I would like to see children of different colors with their head on his shoulder and Jesus as his personhood color. How can we begin to see each other as ONE? I apologize if I got the story wrong. I think I saw that picture when I was young. I’m glad she had that experience.

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Very enjoyable interview but you kept interrupting her. Love what you have to say but this was her time to speak.

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